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Would a bad enviromental record stop you visiting a certain country for instance I heard last week that Norway plan to increase the number of whales they kill to 180! We had planned to visit Norway this year, but due to this abject greed and needless slaughter, we have put a ban on everything Norwegian for the forseable future.So have you ever been put off by say bullfighting in spain, or dancing bears in turkey....
Well that’s a tricky one. I for instance don’t eat veal because of the way the calves are treated before they are slaughtered. I don’t know why really, I do eat other meat, but veal just seems to me so barbaric so I don’t eat it for that reason. However, I grew up in South Africa, a country renouned for apartheid, and so I know first hand what it is like to have people not go to your country because of their politics. And south Africa is a beautiful country, and people who perhaps chose not to go there missed out on something special in my view.
Hmmm so France and Italy would be out as regards the veal or would you still go and just avoid the meat...I would be hesitent to visit SA,purely because of the level of violence, and the number of shootings ect I don't want to worry about being mugged, while enjoying a holiday
Eeehm, for the record, the country that kills more whales than any other country in the world is ... ... the United States. And the killing of whales is not only a nation's right but actually necessary since the whales eat up most of the nation's fish supplies. I feel very strongly about whaling and I am very said how groups like Green Peace have managed t turn natural hunting into some sortof cruel inhumane activity whereas they overlook e.g. the U.S.'s collosal burning of gasses that will flood the Neatherlands, up temperatures and wipe out mostlife on the planet inthe next 100 years if nothing is tone to reduce it.
no I'd probably visit the countries and just avoid the meat, and it's a very good point about SA, although if you know where to go you'll generally be alright, cape town's crime rate has reduced dramaticall because of the number of CCTV's everywhere, I'd be a bit iffy about going to johannesburg though .. in fact I'd have been a bit iffy about going there 20 years ago ...
But in general, aside from the whaling issue, I'm not sure how a country's environmental record would affect me. If I really wanted to visit I don't think it would affect me that much, after all it's usually not the people but the big companies and spoilt officials that control the industries that are too blame. But e.g. what is being done to the Amazon forest is very frightening. But then again, think, if the sensitive places can be proven to be tourist attractions then visiting that country may actually help to save the environment whereas if they get no tourists they have to continue to rely on destroying the environment for their short term benefits.
E.g. if Iceland got enough whale watching tourists that were willing to pay to see the whales we wouldn't need to catch fish which is our main source of livelyhood and hence, we wouldn't be so worried about the whales eating up the cod stock.
Cheers
-B
Yes they do regardless of who is involved in the slaughter, its disgusting, as there is no humane way to kill a whale...
Wildbrew the majority of large whales eat Krill a shrimp like plankton..only the toothed whales orcas and minkes ect, eat large numbers of fish and also seals and sealions.Its a proven fact that Man is destroying the fish stocks faster than any whale, so to claim that this barbaric murder is a country's right, is dispicable! What right do we have to annihilate another species purely out of greed and culture absolutely none!.
<grin> and whale meat is a great delecacy if cooked correctly, was raised on the stuff.
Well, as for an inhumane way of killing whales, there are videos on the net about how chicken and cows are slaughtered, you can't tell me that is humane still every country considers killing those animals as being their right. Cows e.g. have their throats slid by a gigantic knife if they are kill kosher style. Compard to that being killed with an exploding bullet is fairly quick and painless and as humane way as any other. And the whale population has grown immensely so we are doing anything but wiping them out, that they are in danger of extinction I'm afraid is Green Peace twisting statistics and preaching false propaganda. People have to decide what they consider humane or not e.g. there are a lot of vegeterrians who think the killing of any animals is grueseome and unjustified. But a c country has full rights over what it does in its teritory or territorial waters and for once I whole heartedly support Norway in exploiting whales and help preserve the cod stock that way. Overfishing, yes, is a problem and it's shared by many countries, the British and the Scots a prime example along with the rest of Europe, the North Sea fish speecies are overfished and global warming has caused a huge reduction in many of the fish speecies since it drives them north whereas their preferred plancton and other food has not moved so they end up starving to death in unfamiliar environment.
So, of course peole have the freedom to dislike whaling for whatever reason but I, personally, will have to give thumbs up to Norway for resisting pressure from nations seaking popularity to put down their century old traditions of hunting .. countries such as Switzerland that are located hundreds of miles from the nearest coast and hence are not in a great position to know much about fishing even.
Cheers
-B
Urggh no whales have been persecuted for 100's of years and the old excuses are no longer adequate...I dread my son growqing up in a world with no whales or tigers, he should not have to rely on pictures and video to see, what the human race have destroyed, we are criminals and the sentence will be meted out by nature in our own destruction...
<grin> oh we can definitely agree on that last sentence, we will destroy the planet eventually and die out because of that, of that I have no doubt.
And besides, I much prefer travelling in Denmark to Norway, Sweeden is nice too ut Denmark is a lot of fun, great music festivals (Roskilde) fantastic lager beer (Tuborg, domestic Tuborg is better than the beer they export), lots of viking stuff if that's what you are into and the people are very friendly, nice and helpful. ;) And they kill no whales whatsoever <grin>
cheers
-B